Voyager-L Frequently Asked Questions

By: Tom Briggs

September 8, 1998

Updated: May 20, 2003



CONTENTS

  1. Voyager-L and Voyager-L-Digest Information
    1. Voyager-L
    2. Voyager-L-Digest
  2. How to send commands to a list
  3. Getting Help
  4. Sending messages to Voyager-L
  5. Subscribing and Unsubscribing
    1. Subscribing
    2. Unsubscribing
      1. Unsubscribe fails, why?
    3. Changing Your Email Address
    4. Changing From Voyager-L to Voyager-L-Digest
    5. Vacation
  6. Voyager-L Resources
    1. Web page
    2. Voyager-L-Back Issues
    3. Voyager-L Searchable Archives
  7. List Etiquette
    1. Suggestive Subjects
    2. SPAM Policy

Appendix A. Majordomo Help File

 

  1. Voyager-L and Voyager-L-Digest Information

    Generally, voyager-l and voyager-l-digest are two lists maintained for the Voyager User’s Group. The lists are maintained at Shippensburg University.

    Lists require software to operate, and both Voyager-L and Voyager-L-Digest are managed by a suite of software including : "Sendmail v8" by Eric Allman, "Majordomo 1.94.4" by D. Brent Chapman, and "Bulkmail" by Keith Moore. For those trivia buffs who always ask, why is "Majordomo" called "Majordomo?" From the Majordomo Manual:

    majordomo - n: a person who speaks, makes arrangements, or takes charge for another. From latin major domus" - "master of the house".
    1. Voyager-L
      Voyager-L is an open forum for discussion of Endeavor’s Voyager product and related library issues. Voyager-L was originally maintained by Dee Vincent at Michigan Technological University. Starting in May, 1998, Voyager-L was moved to its current home at Shippensburg University.

      Voyager-L has approximately 2300 subscribers, from hundreds of academic, corporate, and governmental sites; and from countries around the world.

      Voyager-L is a "traditional" list, subscribers to the list send messages to the list’s address, and the list management software quickly distributes that message to all other subscribers on the list. This is done message by message. If twenty messages are sent to Voyager-L, then subscribers on Voyager-L will each receive twenty messages in their mailboxes.


    2. Voyager-L-Digest
      Voyager-L-Digest is a "non-traditional" list, of a type called a "digest". As mail is sent to the Voyager-L list, it is also sent to the "digester." The digester’s job is to accumulate messages until it has enough to package together, and release as a single digest message. That is, if twenty messages are sent to Voyager-L, then the digester will accumulate them until there are enough to create a digest message, and one large email message will be sent out to the subscribers of Voyager-L-Digest.

      Some people prefer the digest approach, as it reduces the daily traffic on their Email inboxes. Others prefer the real-time aspect of Voyager-L. It is truly a personal preference which list to belong to.

  2. How to send commands to a list
    The list is managed by special software, called "list management" software. The application’s name is "Majordomo." There are a variety of things one can do using Majordomo. For example, if you want to subscribe or unsubscribe yourself from one of the lists, you would send a command to Majordomo. You may also want to find out who is on one of the lists, or find out what lists you are currently on. To do any of this you will need to send a command or a set of commands to the "list management software." Please note that the "list management software" is not the "list manager". The "list manager" is usually the human being who maintains the list.

    All commands sent to the list are sent through Email. To send a command to the list management software, send an Email message to: "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu". Most Email programs that you are using allow you to send a subject with the message, Majordomo (the program) ignores the subject line entirely, so it can be anything you desire or left blank. The "body" of the message is where you enter your command or commands.

    The most common command used by someone on Voyager-L is to unsubscribe themselves. To unsubscribe from the Voyager-L list, simply send as a message, the sentence:

    unsubscribe voyager-l

    If this is sent to "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu" you will receive confirmation that you are unsubscribed from voyager-l.

    There are a number of other important and some other less useful commands. At the end of this FAQ will be a list of Majordomo commands.

    The most common mistake with Voyager-L is sending your requests to "majordomo@mtu.edu". This will no longer work. You must update all of your bookmarks and address books, and instructions to use "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu".
  3. Getting Help
    Using the instructions presented in section "2.0How to send commands to the list", send an email message to "Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu", and in the body of the message, simply send the phrase "help"

    In reply, Majordomo will automatically send you a mail message back including the "Majordomo List Help" file.

    Also, at the end of every Voyager-L message are brief instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe, and get help.
  4. Sending messages to Voyager-L
    Sending messages to Voyager-L is a very easy process. Send an Email message to the list address, in this case, "voyager-l@voyager.ship.edu" . The contents of your Email message will be delivered to all 1300 subscribers on Voyager-L in about 6 minutes. Do include a very descriptive subject line on your message, this will help other subscribers sort out those messages which are interesting to them. Your message will be delivered as is, with the following change: Whatever subject you enter will have a prefix of "[VOYAGER-L]: " attached to it before it is sent. This is so subscribes on the list can quickly see that the message is from a list, and see exactly what list it is from.

    One common mistake in sending messages to Voyager-L is sending them to "voyager-l@mtu.edu." The list has moved, please update any address books you have to send them now to "voyager-l@voyager.ship.edu".

    Only subscribers may post messages to the voyager-l list. If you are a subscriber and your messages still will not post to the list, please e-mail to voyager-l-approval@voyager.ship.edu to inquire about the format of your address in the list. The format of your e-mail address in the voyager-l list must match exactly the format of your address in any e-mail that you send. For example, if you are subscribed to the list as "user@ship.edu" but e-mail sent from you has a return address of "user@ark.ship.edu" you will not be able to post to the list. You will need to change the format of your e-mail address in your e-mail software or unsubcribe the incorrect address and resubscribe the correct address.
  5. Subscribing and Unsubscribing
    1. Subscribing
      To subscribe to Voyager-L, send a command to "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu", and in the body of the message, include the statement "subscribe voyager-l" or
      "subscribe voyager-l-digest". You should receive a reply from majordomo in a few minutes. If you do not, make sure that you sent the message to "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu". Even if the subscription request was botched, Majordomo will reply one way or the other if it received the message. The list manager, Endeavor, approves all subscription requests. Please be patient, it could take several hours or a couple days for the approval to be processed.

      To subscribe someone else to Voyager-L, send a command to "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu" and in the body of the message, include the statement "subscribe voyager-l email_address". Note that in this case, the list manager must manually approve that type of subscription, which may take several hours to several days to approve.
    2. Unsubscribing
      To unsubscribe from Voyager-L, send a command to "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu", and in the body of the message, include the statement "unsubscribe voyager-l" or "unsubscribe voyager-l-digest". You should receive a reply from majordomo in a few minutes. If you do not, make sure that you sent the message to "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu". Even if the unsubscription request was botched, Majordomo will reply one way or the other if it received the message.

      It is common to continue receiving Voyager-L messages for a short time after you unsubscribe, since there may already be mail working its way through the queue that is yet to be delivered. If you continue receiving messages for several days after you unsubscribe then something is wrong, contact the list manager.

      If you are not sure what lists you are on, you can always try sending acommand to "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu" including the following statement in the body of the message: "unsubscribe * your_address" This will unsubscribe you from any lists which you are on (on that system). For example, an address appears on Voyager-L and Voyager-L-Digest, this version of unsubscribe would eliminate both subscriptions.
      1. Unsubscribe fails, why?
        There are two command reasons why an unsubscribe request fails.

        The most common is that the subscriber’s email address was changed along the way. As a courtesy, most sites automatically forward email from your old address to your new address. So, the first step to debunk this common problem is to find out what email address and lists you were subscribed as. Send majordomo the command "which domain.name" where domain.name is the most significant part of your sites’ domain name. For example, Shippensburg’s domain name is "ship.edu". The command "which ship.edu" will send back a list of all addresses subscribed to any list that include the phrase "ship.edu" in them. Look through this list and find your old email address. Using that, send a message to "Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu" and include the phrase "unsubscribe voyager-l email_address". The list manager (human being) will need to approve the unsubscribe request, so it may take some time for a response to come back from Majordomo.

        The second most common mistake when unsubscribing from Voyager-L (or the digest) is sending the command to unsubscribe to "majordomo@mtu.edu". That is the address of the old list server. You should receive an email message back from "majordomo@mtu.edu" stating that you are not on list Voyager-L. The key here is that someone there is a reference to "mtu.edu". Commonly, out of frustration, people trying to get off of Voyager-L send the list manager a note saying "I tried to unsubscribe from this *~!#@ list and it tells me I’m not subscribed! But I’m still receiving emails from it! " Please make sure that you are sending the command to "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu"
    3. Changing Your Email Address
      Send an Email message to "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu", and in the body of the message include two (2) lines. On the first line, include the command "unsubscribe voyager-l oldaddress". On the second line, include the command "subscribe voyager-l" This will effectively change your old email address to your new one.
    4. Changing From Voyager-L to Voyager-L-Digest
      Send an Email message to "majordomo@voyager.ship.edu", and in the body of the message include two (2) lines. On the first line, include the command "unsubscribe voyager-l" and on the second line, include the command "subscribe voyager-l-digest".

      Note, the process can be reversed, if you want to go from the digest back to the regular list, unsubscribe from the digest on the first line, subscribe to voyager-l on the second line.
    5. Vacation
      One common request from people going on vacation is that they be temporarily suspended from Voyager-L (or digest) while they are away on vacation. If your site has disk quotas, or you just don’t want to deal with 1000 email messages waiting in your inbox when you return, you should think about suspending all of your list server accounts. There is another list management package named "ListProc" which supports a "vacation" type command. Majordomo (the one which manages voyager-l) does not support this type of command. The only way to do this is to unsubscribe yourself before you leave on vacation and subscribe yourself when you return.

      Also, one common mistake people do is before they leave on vacation, that set an "auto-responder" which automatically replies to anyone who sends them Email that they are away for some length of time, lounging around on some beach, drinking cool drinks under a hot tropical sun. While it is nice to have envious co-workers, the 1300 people on Voyager-L do not really want to know this.

      So, a message sent to Voyager-L will be send to that person’s mail inbox. The auto-responder will automatically respond with its message, which will go back to the list. So, now, 1300 have just received an automatic response that someone is on vacation. Now, here is where things get really hairy. Because the auto-responder replied back to the list, then the auto-responder’s reply will be delivered to the list as a message. This will be then be delivered to the same recipient again. Now, the auto-responder may reply back (to its own message). This creates a mail loop. Every message the list delivers causes the auto-responder to generate a cycle of requests. Some auto-responders will not respond to their own messages, some will.

      To avoid having 1,300 unhappy list subscribers and one REALLY mad list manager when you return, unsubscribe yourself from the list(s) you are on, and subscribe when you return.

  6. Voyager-L Resources
    Voyager-L has some other great resources in addition to the Email list service. Following is an attempt to catalog those resources. There have been requests for other "off-list" resources, for example, having an Email to News server gateway for the list traffic. This type of activity is beyond the scope of the list. If there is some Voyager-L resource out there which is not included in this section, please notify the KLN Hub Adminstration Team at Shippesnburg University (kln@ship.edu) and it will appear in future versions of this FAQ and on the Voyager-L web page.
    1. Web page
      Voyager-L has a web page (like everything else these days). The address is: http://voyager.ship.edu/voyagerl
      There is a searchable archive of Voyager-L there, as well as links to help texts, FAQs, and other Voyager-L resources.
    2. Voyager-L-Back Issues
      Back issues of the Voyager-L-Digest (and thus Voyager-L) are available through the list server. To retrieve them, send email to majordomo@voyager.ship.edu with the commands listed below. Note that only voyager-l list members will receive responses to these commands.
      Step 1
      ------
      Get list of available back issues of the digest:
      
         index voyager-l
      
      You'll receive a list from 1999 to today that looks something like this:
      
      -rw-rw----   1 majordom mail       56444 May 15 13:41 v02.n927
      -rw-rw----   1 majordom mail       57464 May 15 17:03 v02.n928
      -rw-rw----   1 majordom mail       57266 May 16 13:30 v02.n929
      -rw-rw----   1 majordom mail       56027 May 16 18:00 v02.n930
      -rw-rw----   1 majordom mail       63923 May 17 16:04 v02.n931
      -rw-rw----   1 majordom mail       66208 May 20 08:30 v02.n932
      
      
      Step 2
      -----
      Retrieve specific digest
      
         get voyager-l digestname
      
      example:
      
         get voyager-l v02.n932
      
      That copy of the digest will be emailed to you.
      
      

      This archive is that it only includes messages sent since Voyager-L moved to Shippensburg University in 1999.
    3. Voyager-L Searchable Archives
      There is another searchable index maintained by Wally Grotophorst at GMU, at http://sparky.gmu.edu/waiscom/voy-l.html

      This includes Voyager-L submissions since April 1996.

  7. List Etiquette
    Emily Post would have quite a chapter in her book describing the etiquette of electronic communication. General "etiquette" rules apply to Voyager-L as well. This FAQ should not serve as a legislative document for acceptable behavior on Voyager-L. But, as a rule of thumb, generally offensive behavior will generally get someone booted from the list quickly. Voyager-L has been an easy list to manage in that respect, mostly because everyone on the list are professionals using this as a tool for professional activity. If there is doubt whether an activity is offensive, then don’t send it :-p
    1. SPAM Policy
      SPAM to a list are messages which are either blantantly false, advertise something in an undesirous manner, or invite someone to replicate a chain letter. Voyager-L has basically been pretty SPAM free. Hopefully, Voyager-L will continue to be SPAM free in the future.

Appendix A. Majordomo Help Files


(You can get this file sent to you by sending a "help" command to Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu.

If you're familiar with mail servers, an advanced user's summary of

Majordomo's commands appears at the end of this message.

Majordomo is an automated system which allows users to subscribe

and unsubscribe to mailing lists, and to retrieve files from list

archives.

You can interact with the Majordomo software by sending it commands

in the body of mail messages addressed to "Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu".

Please do not put your commands on the subject line; Majordomo does

not process commands in the subject line.

You may put multiple Majordomo commands in the same mail message.

Put each command on a line by itself.

If you use a "signature block" at the end of your mail, Majordomo may

mistakenly believe each line of your message is a command; you will

then receive spurious error messages. To keep this from happening,

either put a line starting with a hyphen ("-") before your signature,

or put a line with just the word

end

on it in the same place. This will stop the Majordomo software from

processing your signature as bad commands.

Here are some of the things you can do using Majordomo:

I. FINDING OUT WHICH LISTS ARE ON THIS SYSTEM

To get a list of publicly-available mailing lists on this system, put the

following line in the body of your mail message to Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu:

lists

Each line will contain the name of a mailing list and a brief description

of the list.

To get more information about a particular list, use the "info" command,

supplying the name of the list. For example, if the name of the list

about which you wish information is "demo-list", you would put the line

info demo-list

in the body of the mail message.

II. SUBSCRIBING TO A LIST

Once you've determined that you wish to subscribe to one or more lists on this system, you can send commands to Majordomo to have it add you to the list, so you can begin receiving mailings.

To receive list mail at the address from which you're sending your mail, simply say "subscribe" followed by the list's name:

subscribe demo-list

If for some reason you wish to have the mailings go to a different address(a friend's address, a specific other system on which you have an account, or an address which is more correct than the one that automatically appears in the "From:" header on the mail you send), you would add that address to the command. For instance, if you're sending a request from your work account, but wish to receive "demo-list" mail at your personal account (for which we will use "jqpublic@my-isp.com" as an example), you'd put the line

subscribe demo-list jqpublic@my-isp.com

in the mail message body.

Based on configuration decisions made by the list owners, you may be added to the mailing list automatically. You may also receive notification that an authorization key is required for subscription. Another message will be sent to the address to be subscribed (which may or may not be the same as yours) containing the key, and directing the user to send a command found in that message back to Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu. (This can be a bit of extra hassle, but it helps keep you from being swamped in extra email by someone who forged requests from your address.) You may also get a message that your subscription is being forwarded to the list owner for approval; some lists have waiting lists, or policies about who may subscribe. If your request is forwarded for approval, the list owner should contact you soon after your request.

Upon subscribing, you should receive an introductory message, containing list policies and features. Save this message for future reference; it will also contain exact directions for unsubscribing. If you lose the intro mail and would like another copy of the policies, send this message to Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu:

intro demo-list

(substituting, of course, the real name of your list for "demo-list").

III. UNSUBSCRIBING FROM MAILING LISTS

Your original intro message contains the exact command which should be

used to remove your address from the list. However, in most cases, you

may simply send the command "unsubscribe" followed by the list name:

unsubscribe demo-list

(This command may fail if your provider has changed the way your

address is shown in your mail.)

To remove an address other than the one from which you're sending

the request, give that address in the command:

unsubscribe demo-list jqpublic@my-isp.com

In either of these cases, you can tell Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu to remove the address in question from all lists on this server by using "*" in place of the list name:

unsubscribe *

unsubscribe * jqpublic@my-isp.com

IV. FINDING THE LISTS TO WHICH AN ADDRESS IS SUBSCRIBED

To find the lists to which your address is subscribed, send this command in the body of a mail message to Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu:

which

You can look for other addresses, or parts of an address, by specifying

the text for which Majordomo should search. For instance, to find which users at my-isp.com are subscribed to which lists, you might send the command

which my-isp.com

Note that many list owners completely or fully disable the "which"

command, considering it a privacy violation.

V. FINDING OUT WHO'S SUBSCRIBED TO A LIST

To get a list of the addresses on a particular list, you may use the

"who" command, followed by the name of the list:

who demo-list

Note that many list owners allow only a list's subscribers to use the

"who" command, or disable it completely, believing it to be a privacy

violation.

VI. RETRIEVING FILES FROM A LIST'S ARCHIVES

Many list owners keep archives of files associated with a list. These

may include:

- back issues of the list

- help files, user profiles, and other documents associated with the list

- daily, monthly, or yearly archives for the list

To find out if a list has any files associated with it, use the "index"

command:

index demo-list

If you see files in which you're interested, you may retrieve them by

using the "get" command and specifying the list name and archive filename.

For instance, to retrieve the files called "profile.form" (presumably a

form to fill out with your profile) and "demo-list.9611" (presumably the messages posted to the list in November 1996), you would put the lines

get demo-list profile.form

get demo-list demo-list.9611

in your mail to Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu.

VII. GETTING MORE HELP

To contact a human site manager, send mail to Majordomo-Owner@voyager.ship.edu.

To contact the owner of a specific list, send mail to that list's

approval address, which is formed by adding "-approval" to the user-name

portion of the list's address. For instance, to contact the list owner

for demo-list@voyager.ship.edu, you would send mail to demo-list-approval@voyager.ship.edu.

To get another copy of this help message, send mail to Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu

with a line saying

help

in the message body.

VIII. COMMAND SUMMARY FOR ADVANCED USERS

In the description below items contained in []'s are optional. When

providing the item, do not include the []'s around it. Items in angle

brackets, such as <address>, are meta-symbols that should be replaced

by appropriate text without the angle brackets.

It understands the following commands:

subscribe <list> [<address>]

Subscribe yourself (or <address> if specified) to the named <list>.

unsubscribe <list> [<address>]

Unsubscribe yourself (or <address> if specified) from the named <list>.

"unsubscribe *" will remove you (or <address>) from all lists. This

_may not_ work if you have subscribed using multiple addresses.

get <list> <filename>

Get a file related to <list>.

index <list>

Return an index of files you can "get" for <list>.

which [<address>]

Find out which lists you (or <address> if specified) are on.

who <list>

Find out who is on the named <list>.

info <list>

Retrieve the general introductory information for the named <list>.

intro <list>

Retrieve the introductory message sent to new users. Non-subscribers

may not be able to retrieve this.

lists

Show the lists served by this Majordomo server.

help

Retrieve this message.

end

Stop processing commands (useful if your mailer adds a signature).

Commands should be sent in the body of an email message to

"Majordomo@voyager.ship.edu". Multiple commands can be processed provided

each occurs on a separate line.

Commands in the "Subject:" line are NOT processed.

If you have any questions or problems, please contact

"Majordomo-Owner@voyager.ship.edu".

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